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		<title>Comment on Best Online College Degrees? Be Careful! by Chrome Towel Radiator %0A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chrome Towel Radiator %0A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 20:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>although online schools are good, i think we also need human interaction which we can only get from offline schools &quot;.;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>although online schools are good, i think we also need human interaction which we can only get from offline schools &#8220;.;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Best Online College Degrees? Be Careful! by Socket Set ·</title>
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		<dc:creator>Socket Set ·</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 21:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, i was enrolled at an online school  and the curriculum is quite great            &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, i was enrolled at an online school  and the curriculum is quite great            &#8220;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seven Untrue Things Most Americans Believe by James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 06:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great post. I agree so much. Thank you.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Seven Untrue Things Most Americans Believe by Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must disagree with point #5.  At least, with the assumption underlying the point.

You wrote &quot;Private sector employees and employers are not, in and of themselves, by their very nature, more virtuous or productive than government employees.&quot;  This is a misnomer, nobody believes that a person working in a government job is suddenly a better, bright, more virtuous actor as soon as they get a private sector job.  Obviously not.

The contention is, really, that when a government employee decides to spend taxpayer funds, he has no way to get the data he needs to make the best decisions.  He has money, and a rough mandate of what needs to be done, but no way of knowing how much of each thing needs to be done.  This is the reason we don&#039;t want the government running grocery stores - if a single employee (or worse, a committee) was assigned the task of deciding which groceries each household should need, and provided these as &#039;food services&#039; paid for by your taxes, you would not have an easy way to let this guy know that you were, say, tired of potato, and would prefer radishes.  Sure, you could put in a requisition form, and wait three weeks, but it&#039;s not really the same as being able to not buy the things you don&#039;t want.

This is, very broadly explained, the Economic Calculation Problem.  It&#039;s not that government employees are evil or stupid, it&#039;s that they can never have the same level of access to planning information as they need to allocate resources as well as the free market does.

A grocer that relies on seeing how different vegetables sell at different prices is gaining a wealth of information - he can see what people want, and prefer, based on their buying habits.  As soon as the government steps in and starts interfering with the system, that information is lost.  For example, if a well meaning government employed grocer decides that he thinks tomatoes should be provided &quot;freely&quot; (meaning you pay taxes to pay for them later), then you, the consumer, will quite happily take the free tomatoes, but the money you would have preferred to spend on onions, if it weren&#039;t taxed away from you, is gone.  You can&#039;t communicate that you would have spent the money on onions easily, and the grocer doesn&#039;t get this information without an extra effort.

In this way, government employees are less efficient than private sector employees, just because they don&#039;t get as much feedback on how they&#039;re doing.  Bad grocers, those who provide rotten food, or poor selections, must either change their ways quickly or go out of business.  The government grocer doesn&#039;t - he sees that fewer people are satisfied with his service, but does not know why without significant effort to find out - which is expensive.  The price mechanism in a free society performs a necessary function - communicating desires and problems between producers and consumers.  Getting the government involved adds noise to that communication - the noise of the guesses the government must make about what the taxpayers would have spent their tax money on if they were actually free to choose.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_calculation_problem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must disagree with point #5.  At least, with the assumption underlying the point.</p>
<p>You wrote &#8220;Private sector employees and employers are not, in and of themselves, by their very nature, more virtuous or productive than government employees.&#8221;  This is a misnomer, nobody believes that a person working in a government job is suddenly a better, bright, more virtuous actor as soon as they get a private sector job.  Obviously not.</p>
<p>The contention is, really, that when a government employee decides to spend taxpayer funds, he has no way to get the data he needs to make the best decisions.  He has money, and a rough mandate of what needs to be done, but no way of knowing how much of each thing needs to be done.  This is the reason we don&#8217;t want the government running grocery stores &#8211; if a single employee (or worse, a committee) was assigned the task of deciding which groceries each household should need, and provided these as &#8216;food services&#8217; paid for by your taxes, you would not have an easy way to let this guy know that you were, say, tired of potato, and would prefer radishes.  Sure, you could put in a requisition form, and wait three weeks, but it&#8217;s not really the same as being able to not buy the things you don&#8217;t want.</p>
<p>This is, very broadly explained, the Economic Calculation Problem.  It&#8217;s not that government employees are evil or stupid, it&#8217;s that they can never have the same level of access to planning information as they need to allocate resources as well as the free market does.</p>
<p>A grocer that relies on seeing how different vegetables sell at different prices is gaining a wealth of information &#8211; he can see what people want, and prefer, based on their buying habits.  As soon as the government steps in and starts interfering with the system, that information is lost.  For example, if a well meaning government employed grocer decides that he thinks tomatoes should be provided &#8220;freely&#8221; (meaning you pay taxes to pay for them later), then you, the consumer, will quite happily take the free tomatoes, but the money you would have preferred to spend on onions, if it weren&#8217;t taxed away from you, is gone.  You can&#8217;t communicate that you would have spent the money on onions easily, and the grocer doesn&#8217;t get this information without an extra effort.</p>
<p>In this way, government employees are less efficient than private sector employees, just because they don&#8217;t get as much feedback on how they&#8217;re doing.  Bad grocers, those who provide rotten food, or poor selections, must either change their ways quickly or go out of business.  The government grocer doesn&#8217;t &#8211; he sees that fewer people are satisfied with his service, but does not know why without significant effort to find out &#8211; which is expensive.  The price mechanism in a free society performs a necessary function &#8211; communicating desires and problems between producers and consumers.  Getting the government involved adds noise to that communication &#8211; the noise of the guesses the government must make about what the taxpayers would have spent their tax money on if they were actually free to choose.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_calculation_problem" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_calculation_problem</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Seven Untrue Things Most Americans Believe by Adam Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 06:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem here is that you implicitly suggest that believing in this country&#039;s mythos is wrong. You are making a value judgment on beliefs. The tone essentially comes off as a patronizing look at the views of hicks and rubes in America (so we can all stare knowingly at them on the subway). Second, you make several logical fallacies and hypocritically mock &quot;generalizations&quot; before going on to make numerous generalizations yourself. For example, saying &quot;our way of life&quot; is defined as energy consumption is just silly. You can&#039;t be that dense. I&#039;m &quot;regular folk&quot; and I define &quot;our way of life&quot; in terms of our Constitutional freedoms. I&#039;m sure you are writing to your audience, but what is the purpose? To persuade? To Inform? Or did you write to display your own confirmation bias? In what way does educating the American &quot;idiot&quot; about his faulty beliefs help move forward the discourse? &quot;Gee, after reading that, I guess I&#039;ll volunteer to pay more taxes this year...&quot; The variables you ignore include a whole body of science on the study of Nationalism and Patriotism (not inherently bad things). 
The way to make this country better is to embrace our &quot;We are better than you&quot; roots. Even if it&#039;s not true, believing in it, and then working to prove it, is a far more productive venture. The reason many of these &quot;false&quot; beliefs are so popular is because they speak to the core of the American psyche. We hate the government, and have since we broke from the mother country; we think we are the best on the block, and have since Manifest Destiny (and WWII); We have the most robust civil rights system, and eventually right our wrongs when we don&#039;t. You get the point, I&#039;m sure.

In the sports world, you would be surprised to hear a pep talk where the coach says, &quot;We&#039;re number 2 (or 3), now go out there and face reality.&quot; That&#039;s what you&#039;ve done here coach--demoralized the team even more. Way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem here is that you implicitly suggest that believing in this country&#8217;s mythos is wrong. You are making a value judgment on beliefs. The tone essentially comes off as a patronizing look at the views of hicks and rubes in America (so we can all stare knowingly at them on the subway). Second, you make several logical fallacies and hypocritically mock &#8220;generalizations&#8221; before going on to make numerous generalizations yourself. For example, saying &#8220;our way of life&#8221; is defined as energy consumption is just silly. You can&#8217;t be that dense. I&#8217;m &#8220;regular folk&#8221; and I define &#8220;our way of life&#8221; in terms of our Constitutional freedoms. I&#8217;m sure you are writing to your audience, but what is the purpose? To persuade? To Inform? Or did you write to display your own confirmation bias? In what way does educating the American &#8220;idiot&#8221; about his faulty beliefs help move forward the discourse? &#8220;Gee, after reading that, I guess I&#8217;ll volunteer to pay more taxes this year&#8230;&#8221; The variables you ignore include a whole body of science on the study of Nationalism and Patriotism (not inherently bad things).<br />
The way to make this country better is to embrace our &#8220;We are better than you&#8221; roots. Even if it&#8217;s not true, believing in it, and then working to prove it, is a far more productive venture. The reason many of these &#8220;false&#8221; beliefs are so popular is because they speak to the core of the American psyche. We hate the government, and have since we broke from the mother country; we think we are the best on the block, and have since Manifest Destiny (and WWII); We have the most robust civil rights system, and eventually right our wrongs when we don&#8217;t. You get the point, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
<p>In the sports world, you would be surprised to hear a pep talk where the coach says, &#8220;We&#8217;re number 2 (or 3), now go out there and face reality.&#8221; That&#8217;s what you&#8217;ve done here coach&#8211;demoralized the team even more. Way to go.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Seven Untrue Things Most Americans Believe by Amir Ecan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amir Ecan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 01:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet for all of America&#039;s failings, it&#039;s not that bad of a place and is, for the most part, a force of good in the world.  It can be better and so long as America remembers it can improve itself, it will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet for all of America&#8217;s failings, it&#8217;s not that bad of a place and is, for the most part, a force of good in the world.  It can be better and so long as America remembers it can improve itself, it will.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Six Ways To Keep Yourself Centered In Gratitude by replica handbags</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 10:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such a really good discussion you all have happening. I like the mix of good and correct information together with a few intellectual thoughts. It really is wonderful to be able to finally come across excellent articles where I think I could believe in the text as well as respect the individuals that publish it. With all the web waste nowadays I always value finding some real voices online. Thank you for posting and continue the good work, please!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such a really good discussion you all have happening. I like the mix of good and correct information together with a few intellectual thoughts. It really is wonderful to be able to finally come across excellent articles where I think I could believe in the text as well as respect the individuals that publish it. With all the web waste nowadays I always value finding some real voices online. Thank you for posting and continue the good work, please!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Of Mania and Manic Meltdowns by Dong Tafuri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dong Tafuri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is the best web site for everyone who wishes to understand about this topic.  You know so much its virtually difficult to argue with you (not which i actually would want..
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  You definitely put a brand new spin on a subject matter thats been composed about for years.  Good stuff, just great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is the best web site for everyone who wishes to understand about this topic.  You know so much its virtually difficult to argue with you (not which i actually would want..<br />
.HaHa).<br />
  You definitely put a brand new spin on a subject matter thats been composed about for years.  Good stuff, just great!</p>
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		<title>Comment on There&#8217;s No Doubt Who The Bad Guys Are; Time to be Furious. by Jackson Mollicone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson Mollicone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think i&#039;m losing my health care when the new bill comes around</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think i&#8217;m losing my health care when the new bill comes around</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sometimes you&#8217;ve gotta say &#8220;Who Cares?&#8221; by Alex Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 12:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anxiety and depression are hard to treat if the patient has not been checked for years.&#039;--</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anxiety and depression are hard to treat if the patient has not been checked for years.&#8217;&#8211;</p>
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